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Ralph Rickenbach's avatar

Finally! This was my hunch for years, and almost everyone told me small talk was necessary to open doors and build trust. In my experience, most relationships never progress past small talk once they start there.

I lived in two churches for 17 years each, both fairly stable groups with little fluctuation and a stable core, and I was certainly part of that core. We met several times a week and spent hours together. I cannot remember a relationship that progressed beyond small talk and a handful of superficial, unsanctioned religious topics.

When I look at my coachees, we are more successful. I'm usually a stranger to them when we first meet, and I hear about their biggest challenges within minutes. But that is the nature of the game. So I am told.

I have to admit, though, that I cannot relate to the set of questions given as starters for deep conversations. What’s your biggest challenge right now? What’s your ideal way to spend a weekend? What role does love play in your life? Would you like to be famous? How would you describe a perfect day? When did you last cry? How do you feel about your relationship with your mother? — Really? (The answers are: Money; reading a book after sleeping in; define love; no; see my answer about the weekend; I don't remember; she's dead.)

These questions seem to go from ankle-deep to knee-deep at best, using an image from the book of Hesekiel in the Bible.

I yearn for talks during which my counterpart forgets time because I have opened up their special interest. I want to leave having learned about the person—by seeing their deepest passion—and the topic, whatever they choose.

I love learning, have a fast mind, and broad knowledge. Usually, I can at least contribute some questions that spur on the conversation, if not contribute to the topic itself. Thus, I will leave with a deep sense of connection.

The other person will do the same, having a rare opportunity to talk about their spin without overwhelming me.

I know my conversation opener is risky, but frankly, I don't want to build a relationship with most people who don't respond because they find it funny or off.

Here we go: "I am autistic, and I love to talk about my special interests. What are yours?"

jo saia's avatar

I love love love this topic. And isn't it interesting that we know how to go deeply quickly when given the instructions. In the past, I have sometimes gone too quickly with this ....it takes pacing and sensitivity, I think. And it can be a moment of depth that you both acknowledge with no expectations for anything more or in the future, but no less valuable. It is a moment when my soul sighs, takes a breath, feels seen and heard, and calms for a moment. And I hope to give the same to others. Even with more surface conversations, I think that the intention and manner of paid attention can contribute to depth. I can ask how someone is, they can give me an answer with a hint of something deeper, but not want to go into in at the moment, and I can acknowledge that I heard and saw them, and respect their timing. Seeing someone also means seeing their boundary and vulnerability and respecting that in the moment, while letting them know that you are there if they wish to share more. Even the quality of eye contact and facial expression can signal I am here if and when you may be ready to share more, and I see and hear you and wish you well.

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